Gut health has become a topic of increasing popularity and importance in the food and health industry. It covers many aspects concerning how to take better care of the gastrointestinal tract to improve your overall health and well-being. Our guest for this episode is Brendan Gaughran, owner of Liver Medic. Brendan is a Molecular Biologist who has made significant contributions to the health industry for over 20 years. His company focuses on improving the quality of people’s lives by providing healthier, natural solutions in maintaining liver health.

Brendan explains the connection of gut health and microbes. He provides very helpful insights on what to eat and how to naturally care for your gut to reclaim your life and live at optimal performance.

“There is truth to the saying: Trust your Gut. People intuitively know that there is something going on down there that’s related to what they’re going through.”


On Today’s Episode of the Low Carb Leader:

  • Brendan tells us about the community of microbes that live in our body and how they are important for our bodily functions.
  • He explains the effects of antibiotics to microbes in our body and affect our overall health.
  • He talks about how the food system has changed over the past 40 years and how we have been receiving an increased dose of antibiotics through the food we eat.
  • Sugar is a killer, NOT fat. He explains how sugar damages our body.
  • He talks about the ketogenic diets and how fat-based diets are effective in increasing your energy and improving your health.
  • Microbiome are the colony of microorganisms that live in our intestines. They need to always be in balance in our body, otherwise they will cause many problems for us.
  • He explains the harmful effects of anti-biotics for the body, particularly with our microbiomes.
  • Incremental changes are very important and effective.


Signs that You Have a Leaky Gut:

  1. You are constantly constipated, gas or diarrhea.
  2. Food sensitivity. If you are no longer able to eat certain food that you used to be able to.
  3. Backaches


Connect with the Liver Medic, Brendan Gaughran:


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020 – Gut Microbiome with Brendan Gaughran



Hello, and welcome to The Low Carb Leader. You have joined us for Episode 20. Today we have Brendan Gaughran. He is a molecular biologist who focuses on pharmaceuticals and nutraceuticals. His experience in the health industry spans over 20 years. His main areas of expertise are liver health, overall health, weight loss. Brendan writes articles covering a wide range of health-related subjects from detoxifying the liver to choosing liver supplements. He is an expert-level author online and also provides materials for the Liver Medic website at Welcome, Brendan, to the show.



Thank you for having me. It’s a pleasure.



So today, Brendan, we’re going to talk about the microbiome or gut health.


The Fine Balance and Importance of Gut Health



Yeah, so a really important topic, no doubt. As a matter of fact, I was listening to a couple of physicians just the other day, and just sort of reiterating the importance of this in overall health. It just sort of struck me that I don’t think enough people really consider the fact that either they end up coming down with – not coming down with, but having diseases, becoming obese, becoming sick. And this connection back to this lining of skin that interacts with our environment arguably more than any other in that the lining of our gut is a barrier by which it allows things to come into our body that are beneficial, at the same time selectively keeping things out. So if we just sort of wrap our minds around how complex that chemistry must be and all the different organisms that are intricately involved in that process, if we throw things off by just a little bit how that can impact the rest of the body.


So let’s sort of start from that sort of supposition. So when we talk about gut health we have to talk about microbes, for instance. So bacteria and yeast, there’s a whole community down there. I remember a pretty interesting conversation with a physician who said look, we are ten-to-one outnumbered bacteria to cells in our body. So we literally are bacteria buses, if you can think about it like that. We are like 10% human and 90% other things. So of course we want to make sure that those other things are being maintained in a proper balance because they are symbiotic organisms. They are heavily involved in the breakdown of nutrients by which we can readily absorb things. They regulate all kinds of different operations within our body, mental health, our endocrine system. So that means our hormones, other organs.


So for instance, when we start to incorporate a lot more antibiotics, not only in our food stream but as prescriptions, yes they are extremely important in certain circumstances making sure that people are able to get beyond certain illnesses that otherwise would be fatal. But those are sort of in extreme circumstances. Nowadays I think that prescription antibiotics and antibiotics in general, certainly through the food stream, has jumped quite drastically, and that is most certainly having a negative impact on the microbiome. So we can talk about how the food system has changed over the last 40 years in terms of the incremental amounts of antibiotics getting into, say, poultry and cattle and pork and those types of things, and even now fish, unfortunately, because you have a lot of fish farms out there. And in addition to that when we look back say even 100 years the amount of sugar, for instance, that the average individual took into their body was somewhere around 12 to 13 pounds annually. Now it’s over 130. So when we are talking about sugar, which is really in my estimation the real threat to our health, and then we compound that with other types of carbohydrates, obviously that’s a topic that you take head on. We are drastically changing the microbiome in our gut. And that’s of course going to negatively impact our overall health, nutrition, how we’re going to balance our hormones, all kinds of stress and sleep. Certainly liver health is directly impacted by all those things. So I don’t know how you want to unpack all these, but you give me a direction and I’ll take it.


Soil Changes and the Effects on our Food



I think we should go back to the very beginning, thousands of years ago, that the soil was much different, right?



Oh yeah, absolutely.



I would actually kind of just start back then and come forward and just talk about the changes in how we eat, and the soil, and the antibiotics, and the animals. Just kind of take us through a history.



Yeah, sure. We’re talking about hundreds of years ago. Clearly we didn’t have anywhere near – because of the Industrial Revolution, the first and second round of those things, we didn’t have the level of chemicals in the soil that we do now. And a lot of those – and we certainly didn’t have the petrochemical-based endocrine disrupting toxins in the soil that we do now. We are pumping that stuff out of the ground. They are going into all kinds of plastics. Then we get emulsifying chemicals that end up on clothing, and furniture, and housing and all that stuff, and then just the industrial waste.


So all of those things end up getting into the soil. On top of that, of course, the way we farm is very different today than it was – well, than it was 50 years ago, let alone 500 years ago. So, when – and how we treat the soil. So hundreds of years ago what typically we – if you were a farmer you would have a real good understanding obviously of these cycles and how to rotate your crops, how to – what crops grew best with each other, how to incorporate herbs along with that to reduce the natural pests that would crop up over multiple years if you had the same crop in the same location. Okay, so that’s kind of the basis for why farmers used to rotate crops and put certain crops next to each other. It was really to reduce pesticide and increase overall yield. Well we’ve gotten total away from that because now we have seeds that A, they come from Monsanto and ADM, and as a result of that they have in their, spliced into their DNA, this is genetically modified organisms. They have naturally-resistant to herbicides and pesticides. So now we’re dumping a lot more pesticides and herbicides, i.e. Roundup and a whole host of other chemicals, thanks to Dow Chemical and some of the others that are involved in this. And we’re literally saturating the soil, removing really important compounds that help to create produce that gives us that nutrient balance, that vibrance, that helps with our immune systems and feeds our natural bacteria.


So as a result of this, that ends up not only being chemicals that come into our body that we have to filter, but also chemicals that are naturally detrimental to the friendly bacteria within our own system. So it’s a multipronged approach to this change in agriculture that’s creating a lot of the health problems. We can take a look at just glyphosate in Roundup, for instance. Not only does that negatively impact the friendly bacteria in our system, but that also pierces the gut lining within our microbiome. So that creates leaky gut, allows toxins to flow into the body and then ends up sort of matriculating into the liver and then inhibiting a whole host of cytochromes, the P450 cytochromes, which are important in both phase 1 and phase 2 within the liver. So that ends up interrupting detoxification. So it increases the toxins, decreases the friendly bacteria and then decreases our ability to filter out those things out of the body. And that’s somewhat commonplace now in our agriculture and one of the main reasons why folks are reaching to organic and non-GMO products as a result of that.


The Evolution of the  Low-Fat, High-Carb American Diet


So that’s one whole part of it, and certainly the things that we’re talking about are negatively impacting the overall bacteria colonies within the soil that help to produce the beneficial produce that we were eating. One of the other things that I think is somewhat important is just the overall direction that, in particular, America has gone in the last, well pretty much since the late ‘70s, and then going on. So there was a study that was conducted in Europe. I believe it was the early ‘70s, and this was during the Nixon administration. And so this study was conducted, and they looked at – it was a huge study. We’re talking about 30,000 to 40,000 participants in this, and they looked at cardiovascular health. They looked at mental health. They looked at all kinds of diseases, cancer and so forth. And what they determined was that a high-fat diet was driving cardiovascular disease.


And I can tell you some of the flaws in the study, but let me first tell you how that impacted our overall food chain here in the US. That got picked up by Congress in the early ‘70s. I think it was McGovern who ended up pulling a panel together, got a committee in there, and they started really looking at this study. And what they ended up doing was they went out to the food producers here in the US, the major food companies, and they said look, here is this study. We want to make sure that Americans are healthy going forward decades, so you have to remove fat. And when the food companies ended up complying with this, they ended up essentially with food that tasted like cardboard because when you take fat out of food it actually removes a little bit of the taste. Obviously the texture changes. So what did they do in response to this was they started to add sugar and made it a higher-carb, high-sugar product. That’s really the only choice you have as a manufacturer.


So we ended up going in the opposite direction of what we should have done. So we went low-fat, which is one of the reasons we still have some of these products on the shelves today. People confuse low-fat with health, and then they don’t bother looking at the facts on there. And what the ingredients will tell you is this is also a high sugar product in addition to this. Sugar, as we know when we start to listen to the thought leaders within nutrition, it’s a well-documented, very little conversation whatsoever within this field. Sugar is the killer. That’s what it is. It’s not fat. The only reason that the fat conversation even came up, that study back in the ‘70s had contained saturated, unsaturated fats. A lot of the fats were vegetable fats, things that were highly processed. They did not take out animals that were producing, say, butter that were eating diets that were not healthy. So when you end up incurring that, what you’re essentially introducing into that diet is rancidity and toxins. Rancidity and toxins will definitely give you cardiovascular disease. There’s no doubt about it. It will give you high cholesterol. It will bring on all of those negative – all of the diseases. It will break down cell membranes within the body. It will alter DNA.


Okay, so we’re talking about cardiovascular problems, cancer, all of that stuff. So yeah, that is something that we definitely need to avoid. However, every cell in the body requires fat. Our whole endocrine system, all of our hormones run on fat. So the – what we ought to be looking at – and one of the reasons why ketogenic diets or fat diets, things like the Atkins diet way back in the day, although there are certain changes and modifications I would make to that diet, one of the reasons they were so successful, it was fat-based diet. That is essentially what the body ought to be running off of and why that diet is, from a metabolic standpoint that is the most energy efficient diet that a body can take in.


See, I think one of the things that people don’t really understand is that your body, if you could sort of think about energy as sort of like flowing like water, and your body will choose whatever pathway is sort of the path of least resistance. When you throw sugar into the system that is broken down and used as energy the fastest. So it will switch from fat to sugar as soon as you introduce it to the body, but that does not mean that introducing sugar into the body is a beneficial thing. If there’s too much sugar in the body what happens is that the liver will send a signal to the pancreas to start secreting insulin to pull it out of the bloodstream. If it can’t do that effectively, or you have some sort of genetic disorder, say type II, type I diabetes or type II diabetes where the sensitivity to these things end up being decreased because you’re putting too much of this in your body, then that brings on disease because now you have a lot of free-floating sugar, and that creates a lot of damage in the cell, outside the cell, in your veins and arteries. That’s what creates cardiovascular problems. The remedy for that, I mean aside from taking out of your diet entirely, is that the body will end up secreting a lot more cholesterol. And so we end up seeing cholesterol which really are sort of the firefighters that are fighting the effects of having a lot of sugar in your system. We saw that as a direct correlation to cardiovascular problem, and we said well we have to eliminate the cholesterol, and that is not the direction that we needed to go. And nutritionists understand this.


So the fight is against sugar. You have to incorporate fats. We have to make sure that they are healthy fats. And we can go into what healthy fats look like. But let’s pull this back to the microbiome for a moment. So how do all of these things impact the microbiome? Okay, so –


Microbiome and Optimal Gut Health



Brendan, real quick, for those that maybe aren’t familiar with the microbiome and gut health, just kind of explain maybe what an optimal gut health would be and just maybe give a little background for those that aren’t real knowledgeable about this.



Yeah, so – thank you. And I appreciate that. So the microbiome, it’s a fancy word for basically the bacteria, the colony of organisms that are in our upper intestine and lower intestine. That’s basically what the microbiome is. And you inherit these beneficial bacteria, or deleterious bacteria – typically it’s beneficial – from your mother at the point of birth. It’s one of the reasons why cesarean births are one of those things that we should – we can’t – we try to avoid as much as possible if there is a – unless there’s some absolute medical reason for it, and one of the reasons why doctors try to avoid it obviously. So when we go through the birth canal we get the benefits of all this beneficial bacteria. This ends up going into our system, colonizing on that skin in our small intestine and our large intestine, and they form the backbone for this community and this communication between you and whatever food you end up taking into your system.


So the bacteria will look at food that comes into the lumen of the small intestine, for instance, and it will say okay, we know that there is some proteins here and some vitamins. I’m going to signal back to the body that this is what’s going on here. I’m also going to – there’s some other bacteria that might break down things and produce beneficial things like vitamin K, which our bodies don’t produce but are vital when it comes to our cardiovascular system, for instance and stopping – being involved in blood clots – not blood clots that would hurt you. I mean blood clots in general so that we don’t bleed to death. Those are the types of activities that a beneficial microbiome will provide. So that’s what a healthy microbiome does. It’s balanced. You don’t have an overrun of any one bacteria in particular. You do have yeast in there. They play their role. They are very important provided they are not in an overflow situation. So that’s what a healthy microbiome looks like. It ends up performing the symbiotic relationship with us, breaking down nutrients, helping us to absorb it, signaling us so that we can open up openings in our small intestine to take in these nutrients. That’s what it looks like.


So when we take a look at other things that disrupt the microbiome, things that we want to avoid, well certainly a lot of sugar, things that we want to avoid, high-carb diets. That’s something we want to avoid. We want to incorporate proteins, healthy fats and fiber into the diet. And I think just about any nutritionist would probably agree with that.



Fighting the Antibiotics Battle


What’s happening right now is that we are sort of fighting this battle with antibiotics. And when we talk about these things with physicians they of course immediately say look, you know, scripts have gone down about 5% to 10% over the last 10 years, so it’s not us. And I’ve agreed with them. It’s not the physicians. They’ve understood this. It’s actually coming from the feed stream. So it’s the poultry, chicken, cows and pork like we had talked about before. There’s been a massive consolidation in some of these farms, and when you have lots of animals on smaller plots of land, of course you have more disease. So in order to counteract this they end up shooting them up with a lot more antibiotics.



The negative effects of antibiotics is that it not only kills the bad bacteria; it kills all the good bacteria as well, correct?



Exactly. Right, so these antibiotics are wide spectrum. They’re not very selective. I’ve certainly read studies where a week’s worth of antibiotics can negatively affect an individual for up to a year after taking them. So yeah, you know, again what we had talked about before with bacteria 10-to-1 overriding the number of cells in our body. That’s essentially, as soon as you start to incorporate the antibiotics into the system they are going to go after that symbiotic organism. And the complication with that is not only do you end up losing the beneficial bacteria that conduct all of these important metabolic processes, but you also allow other things to move in behind them. And those are typically opportunistic things like Candida. Sometimes people will experience infections from C. diff, which are typically coming from the lower intestine and come up into the small intestine. They’ll have, or experience things like SIBO, which is small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, which is just an imbalance.


Again, you’ve gotten rid of these beneficial bacteria, and now you have an imbalance of some other bacteria. And when that takes place you have some health problems that you need to address. And typically what happens is you’ll end up with things like leaky gut. When the chemistry in the lumen of your digestive tract starts to change, oftentimes things like Candida will start secreting aldehydes will break down the small intestine, the tissue there, and sort of more or less poking holes in the intestine. And so that’s no longer a selective barrier. One example I like to give is H. pylori. Now H. pylori, identified by Australian scientists years ago as sort of the culprit behind ulcers. So we developed an antibiotic to go after H. pylori, and that was pretty successful, so people stopped seeing a lot of incidence of ulcers. The problem with that, of course, is that H. pylori only created ulcers when it was in an overgrowth situation. When you get rid of it, it creates other nutritional problems. So these are the types of things that we’re starting to understand as scientists now. So again, microbiome always needs to be in balance. When it’s not it creates lots of problems for us.


Begin to Establish a Healthy Gut



Say somebody has a bad situation, leaky guides and needs to address it. What would be the steps to begin to establish a healthy gut?



I guess the first thing I would probably want to know is what kind of diet they’re eating. So we want to know how they got there. Was it just antibiotics? Do they typically eat healthy? Have they eaten healthy in the past? Was it just something that they threw into their system recently, or is it something that happens over time? Have they always eaten sort of a sugar carb type diet with lots of GMOs? That’s going to determine what kind of community we’re talking about. So in the case that an individual was consuming a lot of perhaps GMOs and a high sugar, high carb diet, what you’re going to be battling is high Candida overgrowth which can sometimes be somewhat difficult to get rid of or bring back into balance. And we have to switch them obviously to an organic diet and eliminating the GMOs. That’s probably the first step for just about everybody.


The other thing that we commonly do is bone broth. So bone broth has some of these wonderful qualities. It has collagen and elastin and sort of the perfect amino profile, nutritional profile for epithelial cell repair. And if people don’t know what an epithelial cell is, that’s sort of the base component of your skin. And of course what we’re talking about is the skin of your digestive tract. So when they get damaged they need sort of repair mechanisms, and that is one of the things that we typically recommend.


The other thing that we typically find in a digestive tract that’s sort of out of balance is biofilm. And biofilm is sort of this combination of naturally-occurring mucus, metals, parasites, could be Candida, other sort of deleterious organisms that alone you can probably get rid of. But when they combine they sort of shelter and shield themselves from your own immune system. And they need to be broken up by a nice, strong enzyme. And we typically recommend serrapeptase for that. So if you – and the problem with biofilm, in particular, is that it likes to sit in between these epithelial cells called [J channels 0:25:02.2]. So right into these clefts they sit, and then of course they’re popping these channels open, and that’s creating leaky gut, and then toxins are streaming into the body. So that’s another thing that we need to address.


So if we can get the Candida issue under control and we can get rid of, or at least help to support the reduction of biofilm, those are huge mechanisms. We can incorporate bone broth, which helps to replenish and repair a lot of the epithelial cell wall lining. One of the things in particular for individuals who are sort of severe in this case, we like to recommend slippery elm at night. And if anybody knows what slippery elm is like, if you add a little bit of water to it, it sort of has this consistency of, well, for lack of a better term, like mucus. And it will actually coat the lining of the small intestine. We typically tell people to take this at night, and what it will do is it will form a barrier between all the chemicals and organisms that are agitating the stomach and small intestinal wall lining and creating an immune response in you. It will stop that and allow your system to sort of self-repair rather than go into an autoimmune damaging situation that you’ve been experiencing. So those are the types of steps that we typically tell people.


The Standard American Diet: A Disaster



Can a person have a healthy gut if they’re on a standard American diet? Is it possible?



No, I don’t think so. So yeah, those diets are so heavily laden in vegetable oils, sugars, fats, artificial colors, artificial flavors. I mean I – some people compare me to being a purist. When I go into a grocery store I never buy processed foods. I mean I’ll even look at a chocolate bar and take a look at all the ingredients in there, and if there’s something that either, A, I don’t recognize or I know is a GMO I won’t buy it. And there is a ton of stuff out there like that. And this is in a health food store that I’m going to. Imagine what you see on the shelves in a typical grocery store, let alone the stuff that you will find out there in the restaurants that don’t even pay attention to this kind of stuff. So the standard American diet is just an absolute disaster, which is one of the reasons we’re seeing massive upward trends in type II diabetes, obesity, cardiovascular issues, sleep and stress issues, adrenal fatigue. It’s all the same stuff.


As soon as the microbiome breaks down and you get leaky gut you immediately have inflammation. When you have inflammation your immune system is on tilt. Those toxins end up flowing into the liver. The liver tries to filter them out unsuccessfully. That causes a build-up of fat cells within the liver and outside of the liver, reducing the functionality of the liver. That negatively impacts type II diabetes, which is why that’s a major trigger and a flag for folks. If you are prediabetic or diabetic you need to be looking at your liver, and you need to be looking at your gut. And then on top—so then we have that whole process. Your body knows that if it’s in a chronically inflamed state, it’s an artificially aging mechanism, and it does not like to be in that state. So it will start secreting cortisol, which will sort of screw up your sleep send your stress, your circadian rhythms. So if you’re secreting cortisol at night because you have too much inflammation and your body is trying to tamp down the information with cortisol, what ends up happening is it will turn off the serotonin melatonin cycle at night, and you’re not going to get a good night’s sleep. So this is what people are consistently battling. That, by the way, will get you adrenal fatigue. So that’s all of those things are sort of bottled up under an umbrella that we commonly refer to as metabolic syndrome, and there is a ton of people out there with that.



I’m guessing right now for those that haven’t heard much about this that they’re thinking this is crazy that your stomach can affect you that much. But they actually refer to your gut health as your second brain, right?



Yeah, exactly. So there is a vagus nerve that connects your midbrain to your small intestine, and there is all kinds of signaling mechanisms go back and forth. And we commonly talk about when people make decisions, well, I didn’t do it based on an analytical logical decision. I sort of just used my gut. So that’s sort of intuitively people understand that there is something going on down there. And when they get a bad feeling about stuff that’s an emotional response, but if you are also feeding or putting the wrong nutrients in your body you are also going to get some of these bad feelings from your digestive tract. And there have been many studies that connected poor gut health with rheumatoid arthritis, with mental disorders, with cardiovascular issues, with just a whole host of things. When we go to naturopathic seminars now, about 15, 20 years ago about maybe 5% of these lectures were focused on gut health. Now it seems like 95% of these lectures are focused on gut health because every time a symptom or disease comes up they track it all the way back to the gut health and a bacteria or a parasite or some sort of breakdown in metabolism that is directly related. So it’s really important that people focus on this part of their health.


Do You Have Gut Health Problems?



The symptoms you talked about a little bit, but how would someone come to realize that they have gut health problems because that’s one question, and I recently went to the doctor for a checkup, and I can assure you they’re not going to be running these type of panels on you. So how would you find a physician or maybe a functional medicine person to run these tests for you? What would you recommend there?



Yeah, that’s a great question. So yeah, some of these panels can be pretty expensive. There are a couple really good labs out in Arizona and California that do very in-depth, comprehensive lab work and can very consistently tell you not only what your allergies are, but whether or not you have leaky gut, to the extent of which you have leaky gut, candida overgrowth and all those things, which are very important indicators. But you’re right; very few doctors are going to run these things, and they are quite expensive, and insurance companies don’t like to cover them. So in that case what do we do? So I think just by what we end up eating and how we sense our bodies we have some idea of whether or not there is an imbalance that is taking place. Number one, if you eat foods and you have a lot of constipation, or gas, or diarrhea, that’s certainly an indication. If they were foods that you have eaten in the past that you can no longer eat, that is not a function of age. That is a function of the dysbiosis. That’s really important.


People who have IBS, people who have gluten sensitivities. This is not always a genetic component anymore. Some of these things there’s – I’ve seen studies that show that GMO foods actually promote gluten intolerance at this point and a whole host of other allergens. So this kind of uncomfortableness that you feel in your gut, bloating, dead giveaway. Some of these individuals have distended bellies. They have backaches. Backaches is a major one. If you have a slightly distended stomach, well it’s getting distended out the backside, too, it’s just you have a spine there, and it’s pushing up against that spine. And if you have a nerve in the wrong place, well it’s going to put pressure on that nerve, and all of a sudden you have back pain. So go off of sugar and carbs for a little while and see if that back pain ends up going away. Then go back on and see if it returns. Nine times out of 10 that’s a lot of what we’re talking about, and that’s directly with gut health.


So yes, functional docs, integrated physicians, naturopaths, osteopaths, you can look up these individuals in your local area or through your insurance exchange and see if you can identify these individuals. They are very good at what they do. They understand Eastern/Western better than your conventional physicians.



That’s a great explanation. And I think if you cannot afford labs you could just change the way you eat. It may save you $500 or $1000 in labs.



It’s very true. And you know what, to be honest with you whether or not you have an existing issue you should – and if you are on the standard American diet – if you have the issue they’re going to recommend that you change it. If you don’t, you’re going to have that issue. You should change it. So that’s a great recommendation.



I’m actually on a ketogenic diet now, and I eat everything organic just because I really like steak, and you know ribeyes, and if it’s not organic, it’s actually organic and grass fed, which is nice because that’s available in stores now. But otherwise I don’t feel comfortable eating the fat because that’s where all the toxins go, correct?



You got it. Yeah, you got it exactly. Just like in our body, if our body cannot break down in phase 2 conjugation within the liver we can’t break those toxins down. It will store them in fat cells, and that’s exactly what other animals do, and that’s one of the reasons why eating meat, as you said, from an animal that’s either diseased or had a poor diet, you’re going to inherit that. It’s a little bit like karma. So you have to stay on top of that, absolutely.


The Path to a Healthier Gut



This is fascinating to me, and I’m sure to our listeners. We are kind of running short on time, but in the last few minutes, what would you like to share? What have been your biggest findings, and what do you think can benefit people the most


Yeah, so I would say just from my own experience incremental change is really important. You’re not going to listen to this and say well, he had some really good points. I’m going to change absolutely – I’m throwing out everything out of my kitchen. I’m just going to go organic and gluten-free and not eat sugars and carbs. Everything needs to be incremental. And you can cheat every once in a while. But here are a couple sort of guidelines that I would give folks. Lemon water in the morning is really important. Why? A, you need to hydrate yourself. You get dehydrated during the night. That’s really important. The lemon part of it in there has phytonutrients that signal the liver to drop toxins in the form of bile into the gallbladder, washes the gallbladder clean, and sends it into the small intestine, which feed beneficial bacteria. It’s a small thing to incorporate into your diet, and it makes a huge difference. Take your weight, divide by two. That’s the amount of water that you ought to be drinking on a regular basis.


Avoid GMO foods. Tighten your window for eating. In other words, if you eat at say 7:00 in the morning you probably would benefit from not eating after that 10-hour period. So what’s that, 5:00? So let’s shift that. You eat at 8:00 in the morning. Now you can eat at 6:00. Don’t eat beyond that. You want to give the skin in your digestive tract a little bit of time to repair itself. Apple cider vinegar is a nice thing also to incorporate. That helps to sort of balance out the bacteria in your digestive tract.


On a regular basis, say maybe once a year, I would take a serrapeptase to get rid of biofilm. If you find yourself cheating a lot with sugar I would look at candida and a good supplement for going after candida. And when you end up cheating take a candida-fighting supplement right after. Keep that balance in there. And if you have a sugar craving, eat sour foods. That has a tendency to sort of reduce the craving a little bit.



Those are great tips. Well, Brendan, tell us about yourself and about your company and if somebody wants to get a hold of you or look at your products.


How to Reach Liver Medic



Yeah, sure. So we started out – of course the name of the company is Liver Medic. We started really focused on liver. We knew that detoxifying people’s body was the most important thing in order for long-term health and prophylactic against a lot of these diseases. And there’s one in three people who are walking around with fatty liver disease, so it’s really important right now. But we quickly were pushed by physicians into gut health because that really is the start of this whole thing. So Liver Medic is really focused on gut and liver health. And they can call the – we have a 1-800 number that they can call. They can visit the website at We have plenty of articles there. We have a physicians corner for individuals that want to take a look at the white papers and really get into the nitty-gritty of things. But the articles are written for the common person, for the layperson. They can read those, understand what’s going on perfectly. And if you have any questions, of course always call. Send an email. We respond typically within a 24-hour period.


Unfortunately we are out of time. Our 45 minutes has gone really quick. This has been pretty fascinating to me, and hopefully our listeners will realize the importance of their stomach and their gut.



Listen, I really appreciate the opportunity. And I think what you’re doing is absolutely wonderful. And thanks to the listeners for listening.



And thank you so much for being on the show today.



You bet.



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