Maria Emmerich is the author of several books in the realm of low-carb and ketogenic diets. Despite being active in sports as a child, she was always on the heavy side of the scale. At the time, she thought nothing of it, thinking perhaps that’s just how she was supposed to look like. She then studied science and nutrition which resulted to her questioning the American diet we’re all so familiar with. She has since strived to spread what she learned through authoring books and multiple interviews with experts across the internet.
Today, Maria talks about the ketogenic diet, her take on true fasting, why she likes to cook with crock pots, and the link between estrogenic foods and fiber.
“As mothers, we get excited when we can sleep the whole night. Then, the baby is for sure at ketosis at that point.” – Maria Emmerich
On Today’s Episode of the Low Carb Leader:
- What does a real ketogenic diet look like?
- Are babies really in a state of ketosis?
- Why Maria says bone broth is not recommended for fasting.
- How cooking with a crock pot can save you time and energy.
- Why it’s normal to have low ketone levels in a state of ketosis.
- Why healthy fibers aren’t always healthy on a hormonal level.
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035 – Hot Topics, Volume 4 (with Maria Emmerich)
Hello, and welcome to The Low Carb Leader podcast. I am your host, Dan Perryman, and you have joined me for Episode 35. In today’s Hot Topics podcast it is from a Facebook Live interview with Maria Emmerich. And the five questions that we’re going to discuss today are, what does a ketogenic diet look like? Are you allowed bone broth during a true fast? Maria says no. Maria’s trick to using crockpots for people who are busy, ketones and then estrogenic foods and fiber. I hope you enjoy the show.
What does a ketogenic diet look like?
So tell the audience what a ketogenic diet looks like.
Well, we all agree that sugar is inflammatory, right? Everybody nod, yep. So we want to keep the sugar out of our diet, but what a lot of people don’t understand is even a complex carbohydrate like wild rice or even sweet potatoes, that type of stuff, once it enters your bloodstream, that turns into sugar. It’s broken down – our bodies are pretty quite simple. So we have to limit that. But what a lot of people don’t know is that you can’t store protein, so anything in excess is going to turn into sugar, too. You want to have a right amount, I mean to build muscle, right? But there’s a point where there’s too much. And so what’s left? There’s only three macronutrients. Do you know what’s left?
Fat. So fat is the only thing that’s left.
Or what I live on.
Yeah, right, the one we live on. So it’s a high-fat, moderate protein, low carbohydrate approach. But when you’re in ketosis that high-fat part of it, even a lean person has a lot of body fat to use for fuel, so you don’t have to worry about eating fat just to get your macros in because those macros can come from your own body fat. So even a baby is in ketosis.
Yeah, talk about that a little bit.
Well, breastmilk is primarily made up of fat and cholesterol. However, when a baby is formula-fed, if you even look at the ingredients, a lot of it is fructose, and it’s more of a sugar type formula. But babies need to eat so often that they are usually naturally in ketosis if they go two hours without eating. As we age, that time increases, which I find interesting. You know, a four-year-old, it might be four hours, and it increases as we age.
So a baby is in ketosis most of the –
Yeah, especially if they’re breast-fed.
As long as they’re breast-fed, yeah.
Breast-fed, and it depends on how long they go between feedings. You don’t want them – but you know a lot of times throughout the night if they can – sometimes we, as mothers, we get really excited when they can like – when you can sleep the whole night. Then a baby would be for sure in ketosis at that point. Is it bad? No, it’s a good thing.
Can you have bone broth during a fast?
Bone broth, can you have that? Is it fasting? What do you think? Bone broth, yea or nay? Fasting?
Oh, fasting I’m like a true – I’m a true water faster.
Me too. I know, but you read all this stuff that you can have bone broth or coconut oil and you’re still fasting. Heck no. Even bone broth has too much L-glutamine in it that can raise your blood glucose, and that’s why your hunger goes away. We’re all really busy, which I really don’t like that excuse because I’m working with clients all the time. I’m putting out three books with Victor Belt, plus I’m writing two books with Jimmy Moore and Dr. Nally, Dr. Rosedale. And we homeschool our children. I am very busy. But, I feel we’re all busy. That’s a bad excuse. I have bad priorities. That’s what people should tell me because it is all about priorities. Instead of spending time watching television, things like that, I prioritize, making sure that we have good food. So sorry if I’m being harsh, but it is – I mean we all make priorities, and we need to start saying no to people that are not feeding our soul and say yes to taking time to make healthy food.
So one of the tricks we do to make that a success is my husband is awesome. He’s awesome. He helps clean up dinner so I can prepare dinner for the next night. I love my mom to death, but even at the young age of five, when I was in kindergarten, I could tell that she was really anxious like I don’t know what we’re having for dinner. I didn’t plan anything. And I could feel that, so she passed that down to me where I will – I want to have a chill life. I don’t want any more stress, so I always plan dinner the night before. So Craig’s cleaning up dinner, and I usually fill the crockpot, and I have three beloved slow cookers. I guess it’s called crockpots in the Midwest because you’re from Iowa. Slow cookers are for the rest of you out there. So I have three beloved slow cookers. I usually put a main dish, side dish and a dessert in them. But so I fill those slow cookers up, and then all I have to do in the morning is take them out of the fridge and plug them in, in the shell, and then six, eight hours later food is ready. And they make everything fantastic, and they make great leftovers. So we often do a huge batch.
So that’s just if you don’t like to cook, that’s what I like to recommend. And I’m going to give a plug. I have a whole slow cooker book, and that’s probably – everybody says that’s their favorite. Like that one is a self-published book, so it’s not perfect. But the recipes kind of are. I mean I even have like a coffee cake made in the slow cooker. Kind of a foolproof way.
Is it important to have high ketone numbers?
Are ketones, high numbers, important? No, they’re not. No, they’re not. I’m an athlete, so my ketone numbers are naturally lower because I’m burning them.
That is true.
They’re leaving my body. So someone who is an athlete and really depressed that they’re only getting into like maybe 1.0 or like 0.5 in ketones and they are like oh man, this stinks. How am I going to get higher? Don’t worry about it. It’s because they’re leaving your body because you’re using them for running and lifting weights. It’s good. So don’t get hung up on the number. If you’re trying to lose weight and you’re doing that, everything is good. But again, if you’re an athlete trying to get energy – we had a – I listened to the performance guy. The first talk was excellent, and he talked about using ketones for these ultramarathons. And sure, he had a little bit more carbohydrates than I would do, but he’s a very lean man, and he actually talked about his diet with carbohydrates when he was an awesome athlete, and he looked fit and ripped, and he talked about how unhealthy he was at that time and how much pain and joint pain he was in, and he was doing these ultramarathons and stuff. And now he does it in ketosis, and how he doesn’t hurt ever. And I just thought that was fascinating.
Beware of Estrogenic Foods
So right before we started you were talking about finding good keto advice and cookbooks and how you have to be careful about what is presented to you. Talk a little bit about that.
Well, when you search online – and you know when I first started a decade ago I thought oh, flax is a great way to bind things and use as a flour replacement and stuff, but we now know that flax, chia, those types of things, not only are they going to increase the total carbohydrates by a lot because they are high in fiber – and fiber causes a lot of intestinal distress. But not only is that going to increase that fiber, which anybody with diverticulitis and stuff knows that’s a no-no, but it also is very estrogenic. Flax and chia, if you watch like breast scans after people, women, and even men, it’s very estrogenic in men. You know how like men have those big beer bellies? It’s not beer belly. It’s an estrogenic belly. So you have to be very careful of things that are estrogenic, such as alcohol is, flax, chia, certain foods are going to turn that estrogen receptor on. And we don’t want that. So that’s just why when you’re searching sites some people will count – it’s only two net carbs, but the fiber is like eight, nine or 10 per serving, and if I’m trying to stay 10 to 20 a day, that’s just too much.